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Klokov Was Positive?

August 6, 2012 By 36 Comments

Via Randall Strossen:

Klokov was positive, a Russian colleague just told me – exactly what everyone suspected – and he said that Akkaev really was injured.

Update: Keep in mind that this is nothing more than a quote at the moment.

Update: Apparently Klokov had a knee surgery and didn’t even fly to London.

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  • Paul Sousa

    Well, at least he had some really cool training videos.

    • supbro

      Those push jerks were sick

  • Anon

    oh please no….

  • Joe

    hardly suprising but hope he comes back. the amount of klokov named exercises that have come from the guy..

  • Deepblue

    but this was unofficial, he shouldn’t get banned.?

  • HGH

    So he is banned?

  • jimmy

    people are either very nieve or are just plain stupid if you guys think these weightlifters are drug free natural athletes.

    • Joe

      +1

    • Deepblue

      100% agree, torokhtiy is not natty either. just he took it in time to pass controls.

      • Joe

        How do they manage to pass controls? Surely with the Adams system, there is no escaping.

        • Berner

          You just got to know the detection times of the drugs, plus there are also designer drugs for that and some other cool stuff

          • Joe

            Such as? I find this topic interesting as I am assuming most lifters know the basic 2 or 3 they shouldn’t take. Like other people on this thread have said a natty oly lifter, just doesn’t exist.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KWKBECZD5F6RLN7WXK2LHRNVX4 Justin

            SARMs, for one.

    • ghosthalo2

      You have to be naive if you think the other athletes are not on even more drugs due to even more relaxed drug testing and more money to be made. Weightlifters get the strictest testing of any other athletes at the olympics so have to use the least amount of drugs for fear of testing positive. Serena williams is on more drugs then most of these lifters. Long distance cyclist are on more drugs then ifbb pro bodybuilders. Klokov was battling a bad injury even last year at worlds so probably used more to try and be able to put on a good show this olympics, nothing but respect to him. To disrespect these lifters because they might use drugs is absolutely ridiculous

      • Tangible

        I think it is a little ignorant to assume that just because weightlifters undergo strict testing at international competitions means that they take less PEDs than any other discipline. Certainly the sprinters and swimmers are also tested at their competitions. All competitive athletes, at the highest levels of competitive sports, take PEDs. This has simply become a fact of sport in recent decades. Take at look at Malcolm Gladwell’s New Yorker article about doping in sports, or the Der Spiegel interview with Angel Heredia (who supplied Maurice Green and Marion Jones with steroids).

        Also, you can’t believe that “long distance cyclists are on more drugs than ifbb pro bodybuilders.” Cyclists might engage in blood doping (EPO) and take steroids and other drugs, but pro bodybuilders are literally taking grams of gear per week and running all kinds of ridiculous drug stacks with no fear of ever being tested. There is just no comparison.

        • Muppet

          Actually… little known fact, but swimmers are the least tested of all athletes. Even the archery and shooting athletes get tested more than swimmers (looking for beta blockers).

        • ghosthalo2

          I think its ignorant to assume they are using more if they are not only targeted the most but make the least amount of money compared to other big time athletes in swimming/tennis/soccer/track/ect. In Russia for example where they pay their athletes and care a lot about weightlifting their athletes only get 500 dollars a month. Phelps is worth somewhere around 50 million before london.-set to increase substantially now- The coach for russia said they are randomly tested all the time this is how weightlifting has the most positive tests of any other sport in the olympics, they are one of the few to get random testing in the offseason plus can’t afford 6 figure for one drug stack of designer steroids.

          There are stories of cyclists with blood so thick they would have to set
          alarms to go off in the night to get up and cycle for a few minutes to
          stop their cardiovascular system grinding to a halt. Athletes would
          regularly stroke out, die of heart attacks (see the spate of deaths in
          young players in la liga) and get debilitating pulmonary emboli. Huge
          muscles would rupture and evulse bits of bone. You don’t see these type of crap happen with bodybuilders if they were using what you say you would see a lot more damage. They use everything and much more-every peptide you can think of, every steroid, gh, insulin, ton of epo, test ect. Its scary how much they risk their life to be #1. Doping is more of a problem in other sports then weightliting and its totally unfair to be like ‘well ofcourse a weightlifter uses drugs’ yet you don’t see that with someone like say jordan because he is so much better then everyone else yet guarantee he used every drug out there.

          Weightlifters use yes but just like with jordan you can’t take drugs and be jordan.

  • oLiftFan

    “Klokov was positive” Im hardly surprised but Akkaev really injured thats surprising! I’m pretty sure if Akkaev was snatching 210 only 8 weeks ago Im pretty sure he could of competed but he was positive and his coaches advised him to go under the knife before the comption

    • Dan C

      The feet numbness probably scared the doctors enough.

    • H.cronin

      Apparently he’s been suffering for months but decided to keep going and retire after the comp, but then the flight to London aggravated the injury. As with everything about both cases thugh, hard to tell how true that is!

  • J-Rocc

    Feel sorry for Akkaev. He would have smoked the competition.

  • Dan

    I recently found this site in the past week and just wanted to say what an amazing site this is. Great work Gregor!

    • GregorATG

      Thanks Dan. Hope to see you around in the future then.

  • Dan

    Also as someone else said…shouldn’t Klokov be banned for this? How does this work?

    • T

      No I don’t think so. When they say he was positive they mean that he tested positive in one of the internal tests that the Russians do, and they pulled him out so that he wouldn’t fail one of the official tests which would result in a ban.

  • finlifter

    as I understand it they pulled him before he was tested. keeping it internal.

    • GregorATG

      That is what I understood also.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arnold.moon.7 Arnold Moon

    At least, i can hope to see him in competition near future.

  • Berner

    “Klokov was positive, a Russian colleague just told me – exactly what everyone suspected – and he said that Akkaev really was injured.”
    Its just an Akkaev fan trolling.

    • Philip Waterfield

      No. I’m pretty sure the Russians name was Captain Obvious.

  • steven

    Well, in the end he just didn’t compete. It really doesn’t matter of he was positive or not. Knowing klokov’s major dedication to the sport he’s devastated.
    Is it common that they test their own athletes before a competition?

  • Chad

    I’ve thought about this for a few hours, and I have to call BS. Why would anyone “in the know” say something like that? Total BS. If you were a member of Klokov’s “inner circle” you wouldn’t be telling your colleagues anything, and least of all would you say anything to the man who publishes a magazine like MILO. No way. That’s not how things are done, especially at the Olympics. No one who actually knows would’ve said a word. I call BS, and it’s a blow to Strossen’s credibility that he would post something unfounded and unproven so publicly. Anything at this point is purely speculation, and I think it was a low class move for Strossen to post such a libelous comment without proof.

    I’m not naive or foolish at to think that elite weightlifters are drug free, but unless you’ve got proof that he actually failed a drug test, and I don’t mean a rumor, then really you have no business making that statement. Distasteful.

    • GregorATG

      Good point, Chad. So far no test. I wonder if we are going to ever see one or , as some people mentioned, he pulled out before.

      As I said in the Akkaev case: Until there is evidence supporting those accusations, I have no good reason to believe them.

      • aftonsky

        You should change the headline of this thread, as it seems to be at least uncertain if he was positive.
        Even Klokov deserves the benefit of the doubt and not being slandered.

  • oLiftFan

    Klokov had failed to recover from a knee injury that also required surgery and had not flown to London