Time for the 2014 President’s Cup.
As was expected after the crazy Russian Championships there are no Russian big names on the start list.
I was surprised to see Marcin Dolega on the list (+105). Also Rinat Kireev (94kg at Russian Champs) will lift in the 105kg.
+105kg: Marcin Dołęga 190kg Snatch + 220kg C&J (230x) at 110.9kg Bodyweight.
Update 29.10.2014: Marcin Dolega was suspended by the Polish federation. He supposedly tested positive for elevated levels of norandrosterone (nandrolone or its derivatives).
Antoniy Savchuk’s 224kg Clean & Jerk
75kg: 145kg Clean & Jerk by Hongli Xie (the lightest athlete in the field at 69.4kg)
94kg Best Snatches: (Full Results here)
- Abdelrazek Saad Ragab from Egypt with 171kg
- Egor Klimonov (RUS) takes second place with 170kg
Top 3 Snatches from the 75kg Session:
- 115kg by Zhouyu Wang
- 113kg by Hongli Xie (69.4kg)
- 110kg by Lyaysan Makhiyanova
Why does the President’s Cup have only the 5 heaviest classes?
Not sure about the “Why”, but there are other comps that only have partial classes. The yearly comp in Baiku for example features only the lighter classes.
Because that’s where russians represent themselves in international competitions. Where they are successful.
Yes, this. It’s a serious competition, but even more so it’s an exhibition of Russian WL and they excel with the heavyweight lifters.
Here they invite some 30 or so lifters from all over the world but are the only country who put two athletes into each class so they have a relatively high chance of winning.
International lifters are by invite and Russia gets to place 2 lifters per group? This sounds like Russia almost cheating to produce golden opportunities for its lifters to achieve world records. They can lift at home and not worry about beating tough opponents… Indeed, when I checked the world records, Russia owns 7 in the heavy classes (womens 75, 75+, mens 94, 105, 105+) of which 4 were achieved at these games. Tsk tsk
And also, no other nation has ever achieved a world record at the Russian President’s cup either. I don’t know why they are allowed to do this.
To be fair, the only countries capable of producing world records now are pretty much Russia, China and Iran. China doesn’t seem to care, or in any case desires actual titles/championships much more.
Iran has AG and WWC still ahead. They can’t really spare anybody. I’m pretty sure the RFWF invited them again since they lifted here in the past, including Moulaei a few years back!
Also, look at e.g. Bedzhanyan in 2011. He wasn’t the best Russian 105 guy back then. He came in third in the nationals and Akkaev didn’t even lift there. So he had plenty of time and focus on this meet since he didn’t make the worlds team. He also was a surprise, did anyone really recognize him before that? I don’t think Rigert expected a WR out of him.
I kind of understand how all of this looks iffy, but I’m pretty sure the Russians wouldn’t have a problem with Ilyin, Zhou or Salimi breaking a WR on their soil. It’s just that the absolute elite usually has more important things in mind than ONLY cash and a vanity WR.
Well, I guess if they invited the top lifters but they didn’t wanna come, that’s fine. I was under the thinking that they purposefully invited only weak rivals so that the Russians could focus on breaking records in home turf and not need to worry about winning. It’s more difficult to make a world record (say 239c&j for 105) if you needed to do 237 just before that to secure gold then come out after yourself. It’s much easier if you won with a 220 then came out well-rested for a max lift (239). But hey, I thought vanity WRs are WR too.
I am not sure it’s so easy to jump from 220 to 239 😉
I don’t really follow. A cup/grand prix/whatever is a competition for price money, and whoever sponsors can decide the framework of the competition. The RFWF wants to promote (Russian) WL so obviously they will pick the classes they’re most prominent in.
As long as the equipment/judging/etc. is impartial why should the IWF object? This isn’t intended to be another (continental) championship, in fact these cups exist to provide addional opportunity to gain international experience. Otherwise there’d be Europeans/Asians/etc. and Worlds and that would be it for each year.
Look at the IWF calendar, this isn’t the only cup. For example later this year there’s the “EGAT Prince’s Cup” in Thailand. My hunch is they will focus on lifters from that region more than ppl from Iceland.
Or look at athletics, there’s the Golden League or even single event meets e.g. high jump only. Are they all invalid or biased?
The RFWF paid for all of this. They spend $10.000 per class on the top three. Ask today’s non-Russian podium lifters if they feel cheated, I’d bet $2.000 is a decent amount of money for the guy from Egypt. They invited 36 non-Russians and paid for ALL of their flights/accommodation to/from Russia.
In light of this I’m pretty sure it’s only fair they want to present Russian WL in the best possible way for this meet.
Any YT channel recording this? I miscalculated the 94k class by 2h. 🙁
SHW men+women now at Frank Rothwell’s channel:
I think some don’t fully understand the concept of an invitational tournament (no offence). They can do whatever the fuck they want and rightly so. It’s about the show and promoting weightlifting. Besides the russians don’t need to stage anything. They usually take the top placings at international competitions with China being the only rival.
Sorry for offtop, but have to announce some news:)) 2012 world and european youth champion Marcel Guidea from Moldova since now competes for Russia. He just won U23 Russian Championships with 169+210.
Yeah, I shared this a while ago on facebook https://www.facebook.com/AllThingsGym/posts/596105703836502
What did you mean by “…Russia doesn’t have any talented lifters in the 94kg …”? Should I remind you about who won the last 2 junior worlds in 94 class?))
that was the joke… It was meant ironically exactly for the reasons you mentioned (ie that russia already has a very strong 94kg)
Despite there are plenty of young gifted athletes in 94, this is true that Sasha Ivanov is in dire need of competition. He needs rivals to improve…