Clint Darden shares his opinions on steroid use in Powerlifting and Weightlifting.
Powerlifters: testesterone, little deca (primobolan, equipoise), anavar, d-bol, anadrol, halotestin
Olympic Lifting: is all about recovery, growth hormone, anavar, testosterone (in off season)
Looking forward to your opinions / experiences (if you have any, since I don’t).
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Update:
Anabolics in Olympic Lifting and Programming
Don’t oly guys still need an insane strength enhancer?
The most popular drug of choice for oly lifters is still dbol. Highly effective, very cheap and hard to detect.
From what I have heard dbol is more of mass adding drug. Or can one take any steroid and make it work for their purposes? Power, strength, size etc.
it’s more anabolic than it is androgenic so it builds muscle better than it potentiates central nervous system related strength and power gains.
favorite sprinters stack- Anavar and Halostestin
not true they don’t want to get out of weight class. Anavar actually gives better strength gains and little weight gain perfect for oly lifting. Surprising to most people would be how little a lot of these guys use I have heard from someone who used to train outside of westside and most would stay under gram of test just as an example. Clint has talked about this before in that the best guys he knew in strongman would use less then some of the amateur level guys and how he never used that much either. Steroids are not magic they are a necessary supplement to be a top pro but still the decider in the end is perfect training/diet for years along with ofcourse top tier genetics. .
A gram of test is not a trivial thing, that’s a rather large dose.
I agree totally but some people think you need like grams of gear. Also keep in mind westside has some of the strongest powerlifters on the planet also so probably prep with higher dose and also some might use less etc. I’m glad clint is honest with people that drugs are used in both sports and I don’t think its wrong its important to know that all top 1% athletes use drugs. Yet he also makes it clear it is not a large % of what leads to your success.
While I agree that anavar would be a great choice I think Dbol is still the primary drug of choice for olympic lifters. The reason I say this is because its the number one substance people are getting banned for on the IWF sanctioned list. Even the female 48kg record holder Nurcan Taylan was banned for dbol.
All the synthetic steroids including all orals, primo, masteron, nadrolone, trenbolone are the most frequently detected because the maximum concentration in the urine can be set so low as naturally they are not there. Fast acting and oral steroids are going to be more popular among people trying to pass drug tests as they leave the body in days rather than weeks or months. Dianabol is the most oral steroid.
In all likelihood thousands of athletes use testosterone or testosterone propionate and pass the T:E ratio test by letting it quickly clear the system and look normal. 2/3’s of South Koreans will not fail the T:E test on 600mg/wk Test Enanthate.
“I don’t think its wrong its important to know that all top 1% athletes use drugs”
You have know facts to back that statement up. I think it is BS.
Yes, as do all speed-strength sports; however, remember that the barbell must travel fast enough to be caught in the bottom position. A large amount of “speed” is needed, more so than strength is needed. Yes, strength and speed are connected, yet it is the opposite of what most think. A fast man can make himself a strong man, but no strong man will make himself a fast man. I usually do not like to simplify things, but speed training is generally more stress inducing than strength training. Thus why you can lift “heavy” 3-4x a week, yet cannot sprint that many times a week at a maximal level. Recovery is more important when speed is a considered factor. Thus, in my opinion, the reasoning that recovery is needed more than drugs that have a favorable effect on enchancing absolute strength.
I see it differently-how many powerlifters train at ~90% of their competition weights in 2 or all of the competition lifts, multiple times per week, for a month or more at a time? I don’t practice or know many powerlifters, but I don’t think they train at the intensity (fraction of maximums) that weightlifters do.
Sprinting wasn’t a convicing comparison. It isn’t speed strength.
I think weightlifters don’t use much strength enchancing drugs, because the limit of human strength comes at the detriment of speed. So use only recovery drugs to avoid speed loss and moving out of weight classes.
Steroids assist CNS recovery too.
anabolic steroids assist recovery period! CNS as well as muscular. And speed events (100 meters for example) depend on strength as well (remember Ben Johnson).
the use of drugs is so wide spread now that talking about it openly is no big deal. sad.ya Im a cheater you gotta problem with that. its like its almost getting to the point that there would be no sense in competing or even training if you didnt take some sort of drug.
With random out of competition drug testing, how do weightlifting guys get away with it? I know there are sophisticated drugs people can take but if you are not somewhere where you are supposed to be when training, doesn’t that constitute a fail? When the testers come looking that is. Russia/China etc. vs USA/rest of the world anti-doping standards aside. Its good to have an open talk about this. One of the reasons I love this site.
Pinch of salt, I read this from Pendlay forum. If you have a R-OTC you can choose to pass it so you get I think 2 of these then on the third you are banned. Thus giving you time to get a decent cycle in without having been tested.
oly weightlifters are running 7 day cycles because of WADA snooping around all the time…. china id using new synthetic aas which are undetectable
New synthetic ? how do you know ? would it be anything like our super DMZ ?
Who needs drugs when you have your DSP?
DSP?
Deep Squat Position
(meme from the Olympics when Non Evans enlightened us with her profound knowledge of the DSP on each attempt)
As an oly lifter at age 23, this guy has pretty much confirmed my belief that I shouldn’t take drugs.