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ROM Progression Method for Deadlifts

September 17, 2012 By Gregor Winter

Emevas hits a 272kg (600 lbs) Deadlift at 88.5 kg bodyweight.

What is remarkable about this (besides hitting 600 lbs! Great job!) is that he used the ROM Progression Method.

Something you don’t see a lot written about on the web.

How it works:

You start by pulling from matts (or anything else that lets you adjust the height over time , like a rack). Over time you reduce the height of the matts, while keeping the intensity up. Thus you slowly increase your range of motion until you hit your target weight for a full rep.

Have you tried it? Let me know your experience in the comments.

Update: Check out his post about the ROM Progression Method Details

Filed Under: deadlift, powerlifting, videos

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Comments

  1. mono says

    September 17, 2012 at 19:56

    That’s really interesting, never thought about that. Would be good to know in what rep/set ranges he trained in and how often you should lower the starting point. Strong pull btw…

  2. Ed says

    September 17, 2012 at 20:03

    Impressive! Maybe a noob question but is it normal to lift “thumbless” when using straps and if so why?

    Also, quark was a badass recommendation Gregor, I’m eating right now as a post workout meal.

    thanks.

    • GregorATG says

      September 17, 2012 at 22:38

      Sometimes I go thumbless when using straps too. It just feels like the thumb is in the way and not necessary.

      And +1 for joining the quark army.

      • Ed says

        September 18, 2012 at 10:00

        Ahh cool, thanks.

  3. JRutt says

    September 17, 2012 at 20:15

    It is interesting. It’s also a nice demo on how to make a 10 second clip into a 2 minute video.

  4. John Phung says

    September 17, 2012 at 20:53

    I’m currently trying this out myself, but doing rack pulls and progressively lowering the pins. I actually found out about this method by reading Emevas’ forum post on Fitocracy forums about how he was trying out this method! Sweet shirt btw

    • GregorATG says

      September 17, 2012 at 23:23

      Looking forward to see how it works for you.

  5. Marcin Fisior says

    September 17, 2012 at 21:02

    Paul Anderson was using similar training method to improve squat. As we know with success.

    • Anon says

      September 18, 2012 at 04:12

      yep the chinese also use a similar system for squats… seems to work well for them. *cough* *Lu Xiaojun* *cough*

    • CasualLurker says

      September 18, 2012 at 07:29

      I was wondering now: was him the first one to use it (i.e. did he invent it)?

  6. Emevas says

    September 18, 2012 at 04:14

    Gregor contacted me and asked me to do an explanation of the ROM
    progression method I employ, so I thought I’d share with you all.

    I actually documented a near full cycle of ROM progression a few months
    ago which will really help illustrate how this works.

    The basic premise is simple, almost absurdly
    so. Take a weight that you can only lift
    for part of a range of motion (hereafter referred to as “ROM”), and then stick
    with that weight as you increase the ROM.
    This is a boon for deadlifts, especially as you reach higher weights, as
    it means spending less time breaking heavy weights off the floor. This is far less taxing and easy to recover
    from.

    I use rubber patio pavers for my progression, found
    at any hardware store. These would do
    the trick just fine

    http://www.amazon.com/Recycled-Rubber-Patio-Brickface-Brown/dp/B004RV6U4S/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1334017017&sr=8-15

    I stack 7 of them on either side of the plates. I’ve been asked “why 7” before, and the
    answer is simply that’s how many I had at the time. It puts the bar slightly above mid shin for
    me. I will pull for 1 set of max reps,
    allowing myself 1 rest pause at the end of the set to attempt to get a few more
    reps and increase the total volume.
    Given that I pull exclusively touch and go (which I can address in
    another post if desired), this also gives me extra practice breaking weight off
    the floor.

    Each week, I take away 1 paver and attempt to pull
    for the same amount of reps as I did in the previous week. It’s a very gradual transition, one you will
    barely notice as you do it, but it will become significant once you realize you
    have gone from a partial dead to a full pull with the same weight. I tend to lose 1-2 total reps as I go from
    the 2-3 mat height to the floor, but it’s an acceptable loss. I also tend not perform a 1 mat pull, going
    straight from the 2 mat height to the floor.
    Since I’m trying to minimize stress on the body, I find little value in
    spending 2 training weeks pulling at a height so similar to the floor.

    After a full cycle of ROM progression, I deload for
    a week, increase the weight, and start over again, aiming for the same amount
    of reps as last time.

    Here you can view a full series of pulls and witness
    how gradual of a change the ROM is (enjoy the blooper on the final set).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4fiddpvxwM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj7BlekD0bQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk9KsSjye6w&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZtO4tQCC4&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc3oIpSyKCI&feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeu1j3OrC0k

    In regards to personal implementation, I will say
    that the rack pull is a very poor parallel to the mat pull. The form is different, as is the feel of
    breaking the weight off the pins. The
    mats are far more natural, and its much easier to transition between pulling
    from mats and pulling off the floor. I
    have seen people pull off of bumper plates before, and I imagine that would be
    a good substitute, as long as you are able to make a gradual enough change. Big changes in ROM are not going to be as
    beneficial. I have also seen people have
    success with aerobic steppers, so give that a try if you have those. Basically, have the plates be your point of
    contact, not the bar.

    For fitting this into a training schedule, I have
    done this a few different ways. At
    present, I’m running a modified version of 5/3/1, and for my deadlift day,
    instead of following the 5/3/1 protocol, I simply stick with ROM progression
    with 5/3/1 assistance (BBB style squats).
    I have also trained in this manner on a 3 day a week squat program,
    where I performed my ROM progression dead as my final movement on the middle
    training day. Since it’s only one set,
    and mostly a partial movement, you can fit it into most programs with a
    deadlifting component.

    If you want to run your own cycle, I’d suggest
    starting with a higher rep range, around 10 or so. Pick something you can lower evenly for 7
    weeks and see where it takes you. I HAVE
    trained this way with lower reps (the 5 rep range), but find that it’s possible
    to overload yourself too much on the first 3 weeks of pulling and burn out your
    CNS. It can be very useful for developing
    lockout strength, but in terms of adding straight poundages to your deadlift,
    higher reps seem to work better.

    At my present progression, I seem to be losing a rep
    per cycle. When I find myself eventually
    unable to progress past a certain weight, my intention is to reset back to a
    previously accomplished weight and attempt a rep PR from there, and then just
    keep progressing back up while trying to hit greater reps at previously
    accomplished weights.

    I apologize for this being a little scatterbrained,
    but if there are any questions or clarifying points, feel free to ask a
    question.

    • GregorATG says

      September 18, 2012 at 09:38

      Thanks so much for taking the time to write that up. I will put it in an extra post so more people will see it.

      I am also interested in your reasons for going exclusively touch and go. Maybe another post for next week?

      • Emevas says

        September 18, 2012 at 13:51

        Sure, I could actually post that much sooner. I did a write up a while ago about some of my controversial viewpoints on lifting. I can post the touch and go portion of that here.

        • GregorATG says

          September 18, 2012 at 13:53

          Cool, send me a mail to gregor@allthingsgym.com and I will make it a post then.

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