Meanwhile in Kazakhstan
Okay, we are officially entering crazy territory.
After his 241kg Clean & Jerk from “Big Friday”, Ilya Ilyin Snatches 205kg off Blocks!
5kg more than his pre-London 2012 PR of 200kg.
Follow his Progress with the Ilya Tracker.
Paulo Cavalcanti says
“Okay, we are officially entering crazy territory.”
Does he have limits??
Jirka Orság says
Heaven is the limit! He is unbelievable!
Adam Kosna says
i cant even
If we take his current BW into account, this isn’t totally unbelievable, given the run up to 2012 seeing 205, and 210 snatches from Klokov and Akkaev. However, given that its still only 2014, absolutely awesome. Can’t wait to see how far he can go.
Do you believe that speed??? And he sure doesn’t look like any of the vegetarians I know.
I really hope he doesn’t get popped now.
i think he is too fame..in case of need iwf will protect him.
anyway very strong. someone know what akkaev & klokov snatched from blocks pre-london?
There’s a very old video of Klokov with a close miss at 215. Akkaev did 210 off the floor. I don’t think either did much block work for London. Klokov said on Barbell Shrugged he prefers to go off a deficit instead of blocks. Akkaev said in his interview with Klokov that Russian Scientists told him his body was best suited to be trained with just doing the classic lifts.
I have thought about that too and I agree … like the banksters say: “too big to fail”. The sport can’t afford the big names to get popped. The IWF is busting some unknown lifters from time to time so the system can be taken seriously for the outsider. It lets the stars appear clean and the ordinary audience is happy. At least that is what it looks to me. Wouldn’t be surprised if one of the bigger names already tested positive. I’m curious what went wrong with Liao Hui though.
What makes you think the IWF has influence over who WADA tests and over the results of those tests? Not saying certain athletes are or are not doping, but it seems to me that many assume that athletes (particularly eastern euro and asian) are doping and are being helped in doing so. I recently saw a BBC sport article that reported there were over double the number of anti-doping tests conducted in Russia last year vs USA. Same goes for China, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/28194582 …Something to consider.
Tom Bennett says
$$$$$$ is the reason why the tests aren’t going to catch the stars.
It doesn’t surprise me that they are tested often. Russia and China wouldn’t be at the top of the sport if they didn’t figure out how to beat these tests.
I’m not saying the IWF has the influence to determine who is tested and/or the results of those test. But they have some influence of how to DEAL with the results. Like Tom said: They are all part of the good old $$$-Game. The whole anti-doping system is a playground for corruption.
Regarding your statistics: They are not about the number of tests of WADA, but the NATIONAL anti-doping agencies. Let’s be honest, they are a complete joke.
Another pointless discussion about doping that will lead nowhere. Been there done that. Focus on the lifts guys.
T Bone says
Gregor, I’m not sure I would say doping discussions are pointless if they maintain a certain level of civility and appropriate discourse. I myself have no personal issues with PEDs but one of the biggest problems that exists with them, in my opinion, is that people are afraid to discuss them. It’s the age old saying of the elephant in the room. I would argue it would benefit the sport to bring the PED discussion to the forefront and talk about ways that PED use could be safely regulated (not banned). I think that if the fans of the sport continue to suppress the conversations of PED use, no progress can be made. As a medical student and future physician, I think it is only prudent that some regulation is placed on the use of PEDs for athlete safety. If sports like weightlifting, football (american), baseball, etc encourage talks about the issue and push for legalization we may be able to have actual medical studies conducted on PED use. As of now, there is really little data on the harmful effects of steroid use. Most of the information is anecdotal or people taking steroids at abnormally high doses not under the supervision of medical professionals. More research is needed in this are and that will not happen as long as the relevant sports in the are unwilling to address the problem.
Note: I never said doping discussions are pointless. I said this one is.
Why? Because it quickly diverted into unfounded speculations and conspiracy theories, because nobody discussing it really knows what’s up behind the scenes. It’s always a repetition of things that have been repeated elsewhere on the internet.
That’s why I called it pointless. Nothing new was brought to the table.
I always welcome discussions about actual effects of PED usage etc.
T Bone says
Oh I completely agree. And that would fall under the category of appropriate discourse. Now if you say unfounded/conspiracy theories as it pertains to who is using, who popped positive, corruption of anti-doping agencies, etc. then I would also agree with you there. When we are discussing effects of PED usage and things of that nature, pretty much all that exists out there is heresay. As I said there has been very little in the vein of controlled studies and trials looking at the positive and negative affects of steroids when used to enhance athletic performance.
That being said, I still believe that more discussion is always better than less discussion. Even if with that standpoint you invite some unfounded commentary and the like.
Is it essential for a discussion to lead anywhere? What if many people just discuss for the sake of discussing? You never know what somebody might learn or “take” from it that wasn’t expected, even if it’s “just” food for thought. Doesn’t need to be necessarily new.
If the fans of this site only discussed topics they know everything about, it would be really quiet around here.
Hand on heart: Isn’t all the excited and lively discussion about what Ilya may or may not be capable of lifting at worlds and Rio speculation as well that leads to nowhere? Why don’t we stop discussing because none of us knows exactly what he will or will not do? It is pointless since we could simply wait and see for ourselves in a few months …. so why are we doing this? And thats basically what I’m trying to say:
We love lifting. We love discussing. We love this site 🙂
What in the actual fuck is going on? How long has he been training for? 6 months? Jesus … he has two more years until Rio.
From this moment I’m officially vegetarian (still gonna eat meat and eggs thou).
Wowww! I like this guy! That sinister laugh 🙂
Colin Bryce Tobe Barrineau says
The disparity between off the blocks, and off the floor is pretty massive. If someone wants to shed some light on this for me. Being 20 kilos from what he does from the ground means something is hindering performance…..at least from my perspective. Yes, I am a fan. I just want clarification.
Snatch from blocks are easier due to a power reserve by eliminating the first pull and because it’s easier to hit perfect positions before and during the second pull. Still, Ilya loses more than other lifters imo. He isn’t that strong from the floor as others and he needs to “spend” much strength here I’d say. You can tell it is his “weak” point because he is training that part of the lift specifically. Plus, he loses some kilos snatching without straps (190 vs. 196 pre London).